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what do you say you ready to go in the

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and person the gays situation the gay

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situation I don't know if you forgot

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about mid-nineties a gay situation

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though right back ruby ridge he's a man

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I'm a man as myself in 1997 it's kind of

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good segue talking about the 90s here on

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uh Coco's am all the art Bell was

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hosting because it wasn't so old then he

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got a fax from some guy named Mel Waters

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claiming he had this magnificent kind of

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bottomless pit on his property and he

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had booked him on the show and here I'm

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gonna play the first I don't know about

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three four minutes here the call when

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Mel waters called in about the front

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this is this segment is about Mel's hole

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correct yes so here we go I mean you

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but now to Eastern Washington I guess

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this is Eastern Washington Mel are you

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there

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yes I am first of all Mel thank you for

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answering what are you doing up at this

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time of the morning

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well after I sent the fax I'm I'm living

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in town here now because we had a couple

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of our buildings out there cave-in after

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the big snows that we got out here last

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month

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oh yes and so they're good they're there

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by goes some of the construction debris

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into the holes Oh all right when did you

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discover this hole will the hole has

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always been there we've been out there

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for a couple of years now and you know

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the hole has been there since we've been

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there it's been there since the previous

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owner was there and previous owner there

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was quite elderly and I'd say he was

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there for a good 30 40 years before we

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moved in Wow and then and so there's

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been a thing of throwing stuff down this

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hall for a long been going on you know

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always been there I assume when nobody

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knows that I guess all right how do you

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pronounce the name of your town mantis -

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OH - that's right thank you and actually

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I'm in right now I'm in a little town

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called Ellensburg so I know Ellensburg

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it must know about a rodeo here then oh

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sure okay well so yeah we've been there

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for several years

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no we just stay calm you know we take

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all of her trash rubbish there anything

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we have that we have to get rid of we

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take it throw an old everyone's thrown

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their stuff and all the people from

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around never throw all the stuff in the

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hole

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I mean it's has been going on for a long

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time so you know I got to thinking one

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day how come the hole is not filling up

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it must be an awfully deep hole that's a

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good thing to consider sure as you throw

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stuff in it for decades literally and so

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you know I used to be a I would say

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pretty close to a professional shark

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fishermen so I had a couple of huge

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fishing reels went out there and started

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letting the line down I figure after one

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did you weight the line oh yeah there

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there's there's in fact the original

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line is still down there I've just been

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adding to the line and keeping track of

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how much line I have used

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so I've not real dit in how much weight

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is on it there there's a one pound

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weight at the bottom up one pound weight

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on it on weight it's a triangular

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one-pound weight okay

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and so that's at the bottom of it at

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first so where's the good now I'm kind

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of like a plumb bob exactly exactly in

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fact I have a rigged across the center

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of it there and it goes you know goes

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straight down from the center there and

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the line moving that much line you

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really can't do a whole lot with it but

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it seems to you know there seems to be

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it's not resting again and you know

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anything at this point here and it

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continues to go down freely and so I was

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out there earlier I'd let out a little

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bit more light and so you everyone out

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there tonight after I read this exactly

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well you know it's not too bad out here

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right now it's something about though 25

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degrees right there yeah I mean he just

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keeps going but um so I mean that

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continued on for I think about he was

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unsure for about two hours yeah and so

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you get the gist he's in Ellensburg and

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Eastern Washington state time they call

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parently have lived there about two

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years um like he said the pits been

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there ever since the previous owners

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been there so that's been there for a

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long time

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currency of local a Mexican kind of like

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auto shop guy with dump tires down there

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wouldn't fill up so this Hall has a

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three and a half foot thick stone

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retaining wall around it and would go

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about 15 feet down with the lining in

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the shaft and apparently it goes as far

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as you can see with the light now

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there's no echo no echoes produced when

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you yell into it so what Mel was

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describing there how he was had his a

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fishing reel big thing for fishing for

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sharks yeah I guess suspended there he

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kept putting more and more line down

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there now he claimed on here that he had

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lowered at least eighty thousand feet of

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this shark fishing line down into the

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hole which is approximately 15 miles and

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give or take so when you start to lower

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that much fishing lure or line like that

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will can that line support its own

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weight the longer

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you know what I'm saying that's what

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callers had brought up seen a certain

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point the line would snap under its own

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weight

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at the bottom which the caller had

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theorized that it had already hit bottom

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but there was so far down that there is

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so much weight on the line from the line

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itself you would think he was still

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being taught even though it's just

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spooling up at the bottom sure yeah you

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would never know the difference because

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there's so much weight at the end it

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acted like a weight right it was there

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so much line out and acted like a weight

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itself like he thought the weight was

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still on and going down further I mean I

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think this is as good a thought as

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anyone but at the same time it's that's

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still a pretty goddamn deep hole now

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what Mel also described but he tried to

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trick he said um they used the fishing

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where you put a roll of lifesavers on

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the bait which kind of acted like as a

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bobber or a buoy and after a certain

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amount of time you know the water would

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dissolve the lifesavers lifesavers the

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candy right okay yeah so you know how

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their water saw wipe it in your mouth

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and you know get dissolved in your dad

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puts him on a line and strung it up and

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like you know tied it on there and he

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lowered it to 1,500 feet and he let it

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sit down there for properties and he

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said an hour and he had brought it up

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and none of the candy had dissolved

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meaning that at least at 1500 feet there

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is no water interesting I have I have a

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clip here if you don't mind sure this is

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about how dogs react to mousehole well

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you know I mean the normal thing to do

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is panic like yell into a ferret you

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know to see an echo and I've never heard

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an echo come out of that pain no

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at all you know that's one of the first

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things I noticed about it as usual I

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brought the dogs with me they wouldn't

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go anywhere near the damn thing and they

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went back to the suburban and hung out

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over there so it was kind of like I

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can't like you know if I try to bring

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them there on a leash they'll just dig

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their feet and they do not want to go

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anywhere near the hole so I found that

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to be kind of curious because we've

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encountered various and talked about

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various how animals dogs react to pair

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paranormal kind of situations especially

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the missing four-on-one stuff where dogs

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just kind of give up they don't have a

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scent they feel kind of apathetic about

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the whole thing and they're not they

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don't participate it and they don't care

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about pleasing their masters yeah and

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have that one dog I talked about in the

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Jersey Devil they seem foreign one thing

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we're just kind of late in the yard and

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stared at the ground about didn't wanna

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go look for the little boy yeah so when

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dogs seem to be kind of not into the

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whole situation kind of take that as a

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bad sign

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yes I agree my perspective on it dogs

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seem to be pretty happy go-lucky any of

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dogs will chase a bear weight them yeah

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they'll fight a bear so they're not

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they're not scared I mean if they're

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really scared I'll run away but if

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they're apathetic and not wanting to

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please their masters then it's a whole

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different situation but please I'm sorry

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dude be really pleased that going right

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into the dog things oh yeah but you do

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it hi I win my notes right along sounds

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great

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one point for me and so art apparently a

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neighbor had disposed of his dead

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hunting dog in the hall and he several

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days later he claims he saw the exact

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same dog with same car running through

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the woods as if it was gone hunting Pet

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Sematary kind of thing yeah so he threw

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his dead dog down the hole and then

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reports of that dead dog being seen

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later on on up above the hole on land

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yes like it was alive again Oh hmm okay

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I think that is maybe that does okay

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let's buy into this go please continue

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okay I'm all-in with the hole

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they're I mean they're all in the hole

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everybody seated also in the interview

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said agree that if he did terminal

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illness he would jump down the hall so I

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thought that was gonna cool you know

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said city instructions in his will to

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have his body thrown down into the hole

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as well if he had died oh yeah nice and

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relevant I guess facts to this the

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Marianas Trench in the Pacific Ocean is

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about 36 thousand feet deep and that's a

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deepest point that we have in the ocean

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now the the most we've ever drilled into

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the earth was 4200 30 feet it was a coal

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of super-deep borehole in russia now

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that was just a drill hole like a drill

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bit going down like for like drilling

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oil kind of like a boring machine not

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natural yeah

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the the I guess approximate world record

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for a mineshaft here is the doubt on of

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mine in South Africa it's about 2.4

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miles and it's deepest and now but you

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get an idea for conditions there you're

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drilling down into rock and mining down

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that far the air conditioning has air

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conditioning to keep the air temperature

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in the mine at 82 degrees but if it

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wasn't the - we've got 131 degrees

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Farenheit bone and the surface

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temperature of the rock at that depth is

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140 degrees Fahrenheit so it gets pretty

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hot as well it's hot so there are some

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different oddities there now Mel called

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back I believe it around the year 2000

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or so and so now a little sip of water

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but well in this day and age you know if

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we can find that hole again we can throw

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a drone down there a signal yeah with a

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light or something on there infrared yes

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all that stuff this is where it gets a

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little crazy this is now now it gets

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crazy okay eggs yes now it gets crazy

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okay so according to Mel the day after

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the broadcast that we just heard no

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return to his property was blocked by

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uniformed individuals they claimed there

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had been a plane crash on his property

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but Mel said he could not discern

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the only secret and there's property for

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that reason but he said he didn't see

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that any indications of smoke or a crash

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or anything like that and he said he

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didn't believe them and then warned him

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that a drug lab could easily be found in

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the property if he didn't turn around

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and pretty much [\h__\h] off immediately

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he threatened to go to the press and

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this is when these certain individuals

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offered hit the Lisa property for 2,200

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250,000 dollars a month

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two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a

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month correct ah just the that the

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property with the well on it or is there

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acreage around it I would imagine

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there's brother property around it but

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more specifically he couldn't go back to

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his lake house there like everything

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that he owned in that site sure so he

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accepted this money and he relocated to

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Australia ah so you got the [\h__\h] out of

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Dodge and he also received these people

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whoever they were they've received their

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help to get into Australia with certain

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things like he didn't have to get your

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customs or anything they really kind of

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shoot him right in ha an apparently art

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bell allegedly confirmed his relocation

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and Mel had contacted them from

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Australia via email I'm not sure how

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reliable that is but that's my read and

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apparently these agents paid him

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regularly as they promised to every

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month between March of 1997 and December

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of 1999 she did he won't get paid for

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one year how long they've leased this

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property I mean that was a time for him

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coming up on like - almost like one in

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three-quarter years nice chunk of change

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so Mel returned to the u.s. in December

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of 99 to visit family in two-parent

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crisco's a.m. again okay

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we got a clip of that no no beats

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because I have to read more okay that's

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fine I can get clips for next week

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because this is part two to this because

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that would be reading forever here but

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so but he came out to the US he was

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served by the government with legal

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papers implicating him in violations of

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building codes and property and at that

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point confiscated

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permanently now after he would helped

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his nephew move during this time Mel

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gotten the bus gonna cook to come to

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Washington he was heading for Olympia

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apparently on this bus ride there was an

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altercation bus pulled over called the

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police in Mel as a witness's asked to

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give a statement to the police

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Mel said no and he had no time to get

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back to get to get back to Olympia

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didn't have any time I think what was

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that sorry yeah

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Jose Jose is [\h__\h] around over there

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he's asking me to check on something I

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was looking at it anyway

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the police said they could give him a

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ride in their van so there's a mistake

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ball number one at least and that was

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the last thing we're melting remembering

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on that trip after he got into the

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police van twelve days later Mel woke up

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apparently in an alley in San Francisco

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he'd been badly beaten some teeth were

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missing he'd evidence of being hooked up

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to an IV and a CT team came to find out

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that when he checked his bank account

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all his money had been gone most nephew

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from San Francisco well but from that

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when Mel was in finding Francisco Mel's

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nephew bought him a bus ticket back to

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Washington State apparently after this

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his former wife had vanished and you

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could not be tracked down and on the

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show Mel pointed out that the land had

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been explicitly removed from an online

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Terror server images kind of like Google

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Maps Maps

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yeah so Mel came back to United States

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from Australia was asked to describe an

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altercation in the bus got put into a

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police van may have been may have gotten

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drunk drops from LSD doesn't remember

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for 12 days and then woke up in San

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Francisco right yeah something happened

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to him

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well that's well days but he did have

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the wherewithal the call in to Cuzco

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Sammy and let everyone know what

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happened to him okay I wasn't recapping

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for everybody so make sure I get it that

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day of from when I get to like his in

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the second part it kind of sounds like

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he describes what happens and then he's

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like you know I called it and then this

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happened okay so is the terrorist ever

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images what was edited out in art said

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of the TV crew a TV

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once investigated Mel's former land and

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they found evidence of a military

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presence there Mel had heard some locals

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say that they had seen occasional black

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a black bean like a lightless black

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column coming up into the sky from the

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hole which is kind of odd something that

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would look kind of like a dead you know

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beam of his blackness yeah it's like a

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black hole but a beam shooting up from

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the hole apparently he had one trucker

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friend of his Mel said he delivered

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large quantities of fiber-optic

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equipment to a group of Israelis in a

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warehouse in Ellensburg Washington and

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another trucker friend said he had

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delivered scientific instruments to the

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same warehouse from Lawrence Livermore

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National Laboratories that same National

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Laboratories we talked about the

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invisible Bigfoot from well I want to

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find out where this Mel's hole

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supposedly is in relation to Michigan

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foreign one stuff and in relation to the

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supposed alien underground bases I I

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found a speculative place on Google Maps

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I can try and pull it up here I found it

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on the Internet we Steve I'm looking at

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2012 article it says man a stash ridge

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did you come across that at all death

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apparently were it was okay the closest

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town they're also saying they have no

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record of this guy even ever existing

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crack there so I'm assuming it's a

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pseudonym or he's been wiped from the

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record who knows yeah well I mean I mean

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because after his his last call into

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coast-to-coast he was only even heard of

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from again but um I guess he's preview

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for next week essentially Melges

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contacted by a group of Native Americans

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that heard him on coast to coast am

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apparently Mel was big into I guess

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herbal medicine stuff news shamanism

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shamanism NASA they contacted him and he

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went to Nevada where they took him to a

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local group of box that immigrated from

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Europe but a hundred years ago who

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claimed they had this second hole and

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the second hole a lot of paranormal [\h__\h]

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goes down okay we can get in next week

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so far so good

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Wow okay

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I like these stories recapping some of

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these events classic time of art bell

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stories that maybe people don't know

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about I didn't know about it so you

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mentioned it a few weeks ago now they've

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been washed away with time so we're just

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kind of doing a brief overview a lot of

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these interviews are on YouTube and

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we're just kind of doing a recap and

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overall kind of synopsis of what goes on

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there's a lot more information out there

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and this also goes into Hollow Earth

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theory this goes into relation to you

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know Hitler exploring the Antarctic for

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a hole into Hollow Earth all this crazy

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[\h__\h] more people more people lizard

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people ground people yeah white people

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like it's one the point to think about

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the the terraform or terraform or

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whatever server the people when they're

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listening to this show they looked up

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and they apparently was cooperating

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about radio callin people that they also

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could not find it on there and I guess

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art Bell is producer looking up they

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also found that there's a missing here I

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can send it to you this is allegedly

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image of what would happen to the I

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guess what they saw looks like it was

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just cut out you see here anybody could

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put that image together yeah it's not

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hard to do I could have just made that

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in pain yes interesting [\h__\h] I love this

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idea though what a great story that's

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awesome

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I need to refill my drink you want to